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Have we lost any sense of common courtesy?

03-03-2020

Can you help me understand why people on HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating cannot provide
the basic courtesy of replying, even to say 'not interested'.
I don't understand why some start a conversation and
then bail out. I'm not talking about someone who is
rude, that doesn't warrant a response, but some conversations
just seem to end abruptly. <br><br>
And if given a 'not interested' response, why
can't it just be accepted without being asked to explain
or getting a rude response, because that's not what
they wanted to hear? <br><br>
Isn't it a given that not all conversations are going
to be a good fit, shouldn't we just accept that but express
it with courtesy? <br><br>
Maybe it's just a reflection of the world in which we
live? <br><br>
For those of you who need to leave a smart ass answer and tell
me I've posted in the wrong place, I'm happy to
post this to provide a means for you to do your thing!

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Can not help you understand why, that would take a team of psychiatrist. Depending on who is asking and how they ask, I will respond if interested or to say no thanks. If it was a guy looking for a dick to suck they just get blocked. I think most females do not respond because of the hateful people who can not take no for an answer. You also have to take the piss poor IM on this site, often your message or their answer does get through.

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Can not help you understand why, that would take a team of psychiatrist. Depending on who is asking and how they ask, I will respond if interested or to say no thanks. If it was a guy looking for a dick to suck they just get blocked. I think most females do not respond because of the hateful people who can not take no for an answer. You also have to take the piss poor IM on this site, often your message or their answer does get through.
My last sentence should read.
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You also have to take the piss poor IM on this site into account, often your message or their answer does not get through.
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have to love missing words

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In todays HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating there are a variety of reasons a person may not reply.
If the member is standard they may not have points to reply or don't want to use the limited points that they do have even if doing so seems like common courtesy.
If the communication was an IM they may not have received it. The site shows people online that logged off hours prior.
They may be busy or away from the computer/phone
They might not use the IM or choose only to reply to members that they think will be a fit.
Some people argue with a no. Heck some even argue with an autoreply and are rude when rejected.

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best i can recall from the dozens of times this has come up is...some folks get such a large volumn of interest its impossible..others say because its apparent the person hasnt read their profile so they wont respond...others say no answer IS an answer...some say that when trying to leave a nice reply,they have received such backlash that they just had to stop..and anything common..whether courtesy or sense..are no longer common..how do i know all this? cause i bother to pay attention to what i read..

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I used to answer not interested. Some will answer with bitch, old and dried up fat ugly cunt etc.. Not meeting at this time but if ever decide to why should i answer? Couples choose to ignore the no couples part of my profile. So does the young ones with me having no younger men. There is other reasons men are not a match. My profile is clear. They think they are the exception. Mo.



Humans are the most dangerous animals on earth.

If only animals had the ability to know when to keep away from us humans they would be better off.

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yep and it is sad. no respect anymore

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Here's why I would just rather bail out without comment. Just today I had someone IM me. I replied. We started chatting. He told me how much he liked my pictures, yadda yadda. I asked for a pic of him. When I replied that I didn't see an attraction his reply was, "Look who's talking...FU." So, yea, for me, that's why I would rather just leave with no comment.

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There are many similar blog posts on this topic. For women receiving an e-mail from someone they are not interested, more than half the time the sender cannot accept even the most polite refusal, so we save ourselves the abuse by not responding at all which, in itself, is a response. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.

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they do it because they can..after being stood up too many times getting ready to go out and sitting at a meeting place only to end up going home in the end then finding them online here and i asked why they didnt show up well its because i thought you were joking ...lol sure i want to get dressed and go sit by myself looking like an idiot ..sure buddy sure !! people lack common sense and common courtesy and online chats are taken with a grain of sand because they are waiting for what they feel is something better to come along..No one gets any second chance with me...sorry if its happened to you and dont give up there are nice people who will consider your feeling just plug at it...i found mine but not on this site ..good luck

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You're preaching to the choir here. As long as there is more than hi or hey or let's fuck, we always respond and never just dissappear in mid conversations. Like you said, it seems a lot of society on here never learned that courtesy thing in life.

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Not sure it's all intentional. If someone sends me an email, I can't answer it. Just a standard member here. IM is also a mess: sometimes my responses get through, often they don't.

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LOL I wouldn't say you have posted in the wrong place. This is actually something that has been posted here over and over though. As you don't get the messages women get you wouldn't understand. Women are bombarded with messages and trust me, the politest message often gets us called all kinds of names for it. No one owes you an answer. No answer IS an answer!!

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Hey!! You want common courtesy? Put on some clothes and pack your junk away. Common courtesy is wearing clothes , and not subjecting people to your chatting penis. But just accept that you will not always get courtesy.

When someone starts a conversation and bails, that usually means someone else more exciting and maybe lives closer came along, which is highly probable, or their spouse was about to catch them typing on here.

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Thanks, some helpful input.

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I was mostly referring to IM chats or messages where a conversation is started -- some back and for exchanges -- no rude exchanges (that does not warrant a response) but it just seems to end abruptly...finish the conversation is all I'm saying.

If I'm leaving my computer, I say, 'have to go, hope to chat again' or if it's not a good fit...'sorry, not a good fit for me but hope you find what you're looking for. (If a rude reply comes after that, and it has, like many have noted, that does not need a further reply on my part.

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This is probably not what you're querying, but I've had the experience several times of exchanging messages over several weeks, all going well, then suddenly nothing. It's not that the conversation turned nasty. The conversant often then disappears from HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating. I could assume that she's found someone, but after almost daily exchanges over several weeks you'd think that they'd lt me know. One girl DID send a message that she'd found someone and I wished her luck.

Again, given the conversations and the length of time they'd get the idea that I'm not going to get angry with them, particularly if we're not close geographically.

If I *did* get nasty, well, she could always block me, but I never have been nasty.

I just find it a tad rude to cut off communication like that. Plus, I'm left going over my messages to see if I said something wrong.

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If people on the internet provided the common courtesy of respecting profiles most of this wouldn't even happen. I am even right now having a man from out of state that is married ignoring my profile and thinking he is going to convince me I will have sex with him. So far nothing I have said even makes the man blink. I am about to block him as it is the only way I can get him to stop. I have clearly said I am not interested, no, I don't want to meet him and I don't want to have sex with him. He has no courtesy to understand 'not interested' in any form. So before you go saying women should say not interested, why not ask the question of why can't people respect profiles? Why do they think they 'have to try' no matter what someone says to the point of they get blocked? Had I not answered at all he would be gone by now. All the courtesy in the world would be nice, but to expect it from people hidden behind computers with no chance of a repercussion for bad behavior is a huge part of it. It is a reflection of the world today.

With that said... I HATE people thinking we 'owe' them an answer!! If you had 150 emails a DAY and most were from people out of your ranges i.e. ages/distance/status, there is no way in H*LL I would have the time to write a 'no thank you' to each and every one of them. Now add this, for each one we write a no thank you to we get a myriad of types of replies mostly the following:

A - They keep writing as if you didn't say no and think if they keep you talking they will get laid, or they keep asking you why not and if they can change it to get laid.

B - They flame you for saying no, which someone already posted on here. NO ONE signed up to be called fat, ugly, a whore/slut, a c*nt, or anything else based on we said NO to you. They constantly write it is a 'sex site' as if that means WE as women have to f*ck every guy that asks, yet they don't have to do anyone they are not interested in. WRONG!! That would mean all those men would have to start sucking dicks and taking it up the butt not just have sex with women even if their profile says "WOMEN ONLY" or other variations of "I am not gay, NO MEN" as they signed up here and they ALSO would have to have sex with anyone and everyone. Bet they wouldn't do that so why think women will????

C - They get angry if you block them so then they make more profiles so they can continue to follow you and try to get laid.

D - They start sending email after email after email all within seconds when they don’t get a reply as they think you have no job, no family, no laundry, nothing to do at all but sit there and service them. WRONG!! People have lives and are not at their computer 24/7.

E - Standard members cannot even read a message from anyone let alone answer.

The idea of just block people, you cannot block people BEFORE they show they are an a**hole unfortunately. Anyone 'expecting' an answer from anyone I give this story too. If you were a door to door salesman and the people were not home would you seriously sit on their door step and wait for them to get home or go to the next house? I am betting you go to the next house. Same here, if you send an email and do not get a reply don't take it personal, go to the next profile. The person may not be home and not sitting there just waiting to answer you or you may be in the 150 emails that they do not have a secretary to answer them.

When you get 24 messages saying Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi, Howdy, Hi, Hi, Hello, Hi, Hi and nothing else it is really pathetic. It says nothing about why you contacted someone let alone you actually read their profile. I get that you may make friends and I have made many, but state up front something, anything, other than just Hi as it is really not worth anything.

I KNOW it is difficult for men to get replies, I DO, but to complain that women don't reply to you is not the answer. There are tons of your own gender ruining it for you by wasting our time and taking up our space that you could be in if they only read the profiles and didn't 'assume' we are all whores just waiting to service them. This is not an online whorehouse warehouse and everyone has preferences not just the men.

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I have looked at your profile. Yes, I see you are bi and looking for men. That is fine, but realize, many people are not looking for what you are. Going by what you wrote, you want someone Genuine, discreet, respectful, one who is not looking for anything complicated but just want to enjoy being pleasured and enjoy mutually satisfying sex. More men than women would be likely to have instant sex with no prior anything and then just walk away afterwards than women. Unfortunately there are too many that fall for the 'get laid in 24 hours' line the site uses in its ads and that just is not how the world works in reality. It is an advertisement. Again, much of the courtesy has to start with people contacting those that are looking for the same thing as they are meaning read and respect profiles. That is probably not going to happen as too many assume that everyone is here to f*ck and f*ck anything they can, which is totally unrealistic. I get it is a sex 'based' site, but as I said, it isn't an online whorehouse warehouse where everyone is just horny, beautiful, and has sex with anyone that asks.

Do the math here.... if a person is getting 100 messages a day and you narrow it to even just 25 people that is 175 a WEEK then it expounds to 700 A MONTH. That is just disgusting. I am sure you are going to say okay don't have 25 a day, choose just one and that one should be you. Guess what? The other 24 people are saying the same thing, make the one be them. There is a reason people write profiles and that seems to have been forgotten by the people writing this is a sex site, we are all here for sex, if you are here for anything other than to just randomly screw total strangers get off the site etc. There is a myriad of reasons to be here and even if one is looking for sex and sex alone that doesn't mean they have no preferences. If you had 100 people lined up for your attention you would go to the ones that you found most attractive not the ones you find unattractive or are not into what you want. That is logical not shallow.

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You referring to messenger here? It is known to have issues , emails are better.

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if you walk through a doorway and hit your head on the arch you soon learn to bow your head when passing through the doorway
if you walk across the street and stub your toe on the curb you soon learn to lift your foot when crossing the street...
when the majority of the people do the same thing that thing becomes the norm. therefore by asking why people do not respond you yourself are saying that it is normal not to reply when losing interest
so as it is normal to go out in public dressed to impress, normal to undress to impress here so is it normal to not to reply here unless you intend to "hookup"
by the by it is also normal to follow up a "common courtesy" post with a "fakes & flakes" post
bonne chance

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"I was mostly referring to IM chats or messages where a conversation is started -- some back and for exchanges -- no rude exchanges (that does not warrant a response) but it just seems to end abruptly...finish the conversation is all I'm saying."

well if that is all you are saying... then the many people that have commented on how badly IM's are fucked up here. how they lose contact with people in mid chat, how friends do not reply when im shows them online,and im open... and it has been so for years then i guess you are a victim of HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating's poor CSC (customer satisfaction concerns)

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Oh my G! What is happening to people?

Reasons I've just bowed out of conversations...
1- They only want to talk about sex - graphically. Boring!
2- They never respond to questions I ask.
3- Says something creepy. Examples: "My ex had a beautiful daughter." You're done!
4- Excessive wait times between chat responses. Wake up!
Each of those examples will likely come with an addition to my "blocked list".

Those are some examples. I'd tell you to see if any of those examples sound like you, but people like that never see themselves and always blames the other party... so this advice is likely wasted.

A much better piece of advice is this... The world is full of impolite people. There are people who think it's okay to be rude because someone is from a different culture, or has a different skin color. When you encounter someone who is rude, or mean to you, and you feel you did absolutely nothing to earn it.... learn to forget them and move on. It's a good exercise in thickening of the hide. Once upon a time it took a few stick and stones. Now, all they have to do is ignore people. SMH!

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Forgot to add....

"For those of you who need to leave a smart ass answer and tell
me I've posted in the wrong place, I'm happy to post this to provide a means for you to do your thing!"

An obvious attempt to CONTROL what others think, or say. If someone posts something that might be better addressed in a different area, why should they not say it??? It is, in fact, advice.
My additional advice is, you sound controlling and whiny and a lot of people might be inclined to end a conversation when those traits expose themselves.

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Well, actually, no answer *is* an answer. Simple as that. Same deal as in real life.

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? Isn't a reflection of the world I'd like to think and only posting out of boredom , am always courteous but rarely get any back and is 0 problem it is a very usual free sex site , maybe you are a bit too nieve and 0 offence meant as I'm not gold but have had it free on occasions so can't read your profile only see the pic and it is just another cock

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