[COLOR darkblue] [SIZE 4][B]-IF WE HOTLIST/FLIRT WITH YOU--WE ARE INTERESTED!!!! [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE 3]We are a fun loving mature cpl that love sex, but we’ are just as interested in building enduring relationships. We are not pushy about BI, its just that if it feels good--DO IT-- [B]We DO respect the other pers boundaries.[/B] Lets get together and have some fun.[/SIZE] [SIZE 3]We are a [B]VERY REAL[/B], hard working middle class couple looking to get out, make new friends, and enjoy the exciting benefits this lifestyle has to offer. We're not the young couple that started in this lifestyle back in the 80s, but we're not dead yet neither. Wife has added a few extra pounds over the years and does have a back problem. So, no pretzel moves. LOL I'm not a spring chicken myself. More of a voyeur (watch and join in later) BUT, we still enjoy mixing it up when money, time, and rea allow. [U]We are MALE friendly [/U](husband is straight), but do prefer couples or females. We are never pushy.[B] NO MEANS NO[/B]! We do answer all e-mails and do send out e-mails of interest. We hope that everyone replies, even if it's to say not interested.[/SIZE] [COLOR darkred][SIZE 4][B]WARNING[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]: [COLOR firebrick][SIZE 3]Any institutions using this site or any of its associated sites for studies or projects - You do NOT have my permission to use any of my profile or pictures in any form forum both current and future. If you have or do, it will be considered a serious violation of my privacy and will be subject to legal ramifications[/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE 5]Try the [B][U]CVE Watchers Society [/U][/B]group! So far, it has been active.[/SIZE][COLOR darkblue][/COLOR] ^:-J [COLOR blue][SIZE 4]We try well over 20 different "GROUPS!" In 99% of the "GROUPS", the topic dates were ancient. In 99% of the "GROUPS", the replies were next to nothing. We don't have that kind of time to wait.[/SIZE][/COLOR] =(( [COLOR darkblue][SIZE 4][B]Nothing productive with e-mail replies. Most profiles we checked on were either deleted, inactive, have been seen in months, or just not replying to e-mails[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] =(( [COLOR blue][SIZE 3][B]GROUP ISSUES and what to look for.[/B] :-h The major problem with most groups AFF members, is that (like ourselves) their standard free members and lack the ability to send e-mails. Standard members can only reply to e-mails received, makes it a catch 22 type atmosphere. That's what makes group postings and e-mail exchanges necessary and convenient. Since the late 80s, most real swingers are very aware of the type of memberships you encounter on these websites. (it's a male dominated business) [SIZE 5][B]FINDING AN ACTIVE GROUP OR AFF MEMBER[/B][/SIZE] 1. First thing we check, is the moderators and/or aff members profile for activity. In most cases, their either deleted or inactive for months. [I]The group moderator and/or AFF member has been missing for 2 months or more.[/I] [U]THAT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN! [/U]! [COLOR royalblue](There's very little chance of success)[/COLOR] 2. Check the membership profile listings for activity. All profiles have a "post" or "comment" list next to their ages at the bottom of their group membership profile. In most cases, you can tell how active their profile really is and as to whether they've replied to other topics and if their really interested in actually meetings. Then check the profile itself. Look at their last visit. Read their profile information. After awhile, you can pretty much tell who wrote it. At the bottom of their profile, it'll list the number of e-mails sent and replied to. Dead give away, as to who's, really meeting and who isn't. 3. Dates of postings and replies. Checking the dates gives you a good idea just how active these group really are. If you have posted a topic (as we have numerous times), count the number of times you've received e-mails or replies to your post. 4. Check the number of cancellations, no shows, excuses. (men are the worst,,LOL ) It's really a no brainier as to the percentage of real available couples (M & F), single females to male ratio,,check the webcam list of single females on cam compared to males on cam. Then, if you check the number of couples on cam,,most are males on alone. This is the rea most real swingers (M, F couples) have given up on these sites. (mostly the female half) [COLOR indigo]Did you know that most females on cam are promoting their our peral websites and have no interest in really meeting?[/COLOR] X( We've been paid members of a few other swinger sites only to find out early on, the problems associated with these sites (never again). In the 20 plus years we've tried these sites, we can count on one hand (counting males) the number of people we've met. But, from time to time, we'll venture back on with the hopes, that "MAYBE", things have improved and we will meet someone. If you've taken the time to read our profile (we hope), we've very "spur of the moment" planners. Scheduling = time, distance, MONEY! We've listed on our profile, an interest we have that works out for our schedule. And, we're not having to worry about who shows up or not. We'll just have fun with those ele that are present at the time. AND YES,,other couples are attending more and more. It's not a new lifestyle idea. We'll probably be active members with this group for awhile till it looks like we're saddling a dead , then we'll move on. We really would like to read replies from others about future meetings and/or parties. The best way we've found to avoid frustrations,,is set up a cam chat, then if everyone is interested in meeting, exchange . At least you've [B]seen [/B]that there is a per or pers interested in meeting.[/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR darkblue][SIZE 4][B]Unless you post, and/or replied to group topics, no one knows who you are or your interests. Put your profile on for others to read![/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]

Mijn Ideale Persoon: What you maybe doing wrong is relying on HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating people in your area to just "jump" at the chance to meet.
First understand, these swinger sites are a magnet for males to open profiles with or without a REAL female being involved! The cam viewing program makes this a very popular site.
Swinger sites are a major hit and miss.
More misses then hits, I should add.
Our area of Georgia is like a dead zone for swingers outside the clubs. Clubs give you the advantage of actually talking face to face allowing everyone a little time to get to know one another. BUT, they are expensive and require pre-planning. Time, Place, Reason,MONEY play an important part in our planning.
HERE ARE SOME HELPFUL TIPS THAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER OUR YEARS ON THESE SWINGER SITES.
1st. Read (study) the profile information and e-mails, even to the point of checking the "Groups they belong to and past postings.
Look for prior written verification's (not "friends).
Men have away of writing more provocative then the females. (watch for words like "me, us, I, etc.) OR, Example; she wants to fuck your brains out." =RED FLAG!
Always reply any way.
Husbands on the average, start by setting meetings up. Then later (maybe) the wife responses. (as in our case)
When it does come down to being contacted, by either a couple or a female. In most cases, it's a "spur of the moment", or "she (or husband) are just curious about it" situation.
In a number of those cases, fear, worry, apprehension, or a number of other emotions play into it.
Alway reply with more then a "one liner!"
State a little information about yourself other then just dick size.
Your first reply may or may not give you a second chance. Remember, at this point, no one knows who you are.
Be polite, respectful, choose you wording responsibly when replying to an e-mail.
(HotSwinger.nl Hot Swinger - Hot Swingers Dating even posts a no background check, what makes you think anyone else will. Joking!)
The most important 1st step,,
SHOW UP!
Any no-shows, cancellations, being late, will probably be your last opportunity.
Word does get around on these sites.
If and when you do meet face to face, be at your absolute best. (clean looking, polite, gentlemen, etc.) and make sure (in the case of a couple) you include the husband in all your conversation.
A husbands decision plays just as much an important part, as does the wife.
If the sexual interest is mutual and the decision is made, offer to either pay for dinner, drinks, pay or share the cost of the motel room if one is required.
(better chance for a return visit)
(if you thought this was a free ride, obviously, you haven't been out on a date in awhile,,LOL )
AND, always bring your own condoms and lube (if needed) Do not pull these items out at the dinner table or until the decision has been made. LOL
Lets say, your in the room, take the time to continue a little conversation prior to getting un-dressed. You still need to offer a comfort zone.
NOW! My most important requirement! Please take care of the females needs first. Don't be in a hurry and PLEASE, make it last! LOL
Always stay in touch (conversation) with the husband, but focus on the wife. Compliments are great.
When it is over, continue the conversation, and again, don't be in a hurry. There may or may not be a round 2.
There will be numerous suggestion and ideas, interests, but that's what the conversation is all about.
I hope this helps.

Wat zijn uw favoriete muzikanten of bands?:
Him, ,Boston, ,,

Deel één van uw favoriete seksuele fantasieën. Houdt u niet in!:
A FEW, ,But we're not here to talk, A fantasy is something we achieve when a REAL MEETING takes place.

Welke seksuele activiteiten winden u op?:
Orale seks geven, Orale seks ontvangen, Speeltjes (Vibrators/Dildo's/enz.), Fetisjen, Lichte bondage, Rollenspelen, Trio's, Gelijktijdig masturberen, "Thuisfilmpjes" maken, Voyeurisme, Latex, Massage

Welke factoren zijn het belangrijkst wanneer u op zoek bent naar een seksuele partner?:
Seksuele ervaring, Fysieke aantrekkingskracht, Dezelfde/soortgelijke fetisjen, Discreet kunnen zijn, Libido, Bereidheid om openlijk alles te bespreken en te proberen, Bereidheid een ongebonden seksuele relatie aan te gaan, Creativiteits-/Kinkniveau

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Ik heb het geprobeerd, maar het is gewoon niet hetzelfde.

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